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		<title>By: barb</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 17:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jon,
I really cannot agree with the hermeneutical or numerical interpretations of this story, I think it&#039;s just a story into which is being read far too much which in fact doesnot exist.
Barbara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jon,<br />
I really cannot agree with the hermeneutical or numerical interpretations of this story, I think it&#8217;s just a story into which is being read far too much which in fact doesnot exist.<br />
Barbara</p>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 17:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracey if you ask idiot there he&#039;ll go into the renting of the temple veil, or the hijab or the veil of skin covering the virgin&#039;s hole etc. The curtain is simply a bloody curtain. no alternate meaning you fool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracey if you ask idiot there he&#8217;ll go into the renting of the temple veil, or the hijab or the veil of skin covering the virgin&#8217;s hole etc. The curtain is simply a bloody curtain. no alternate meaning you fool.</p>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
		<link>http://www.davidgagne.net/2001/11/12/hills-like-white-elephants-2/#comment-373583</link>
		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 17:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>STOP SPLITTING FUCKING STRAWS. &#039;I&#039; OR &#039;FINE&#039; IS FUCKING IRRELEVANT YOU IMBECILE. YOU&#039;RE PUTTING YOUR OWN SHIT INTO HEMINGWAY AND TRYING TO SAY &#039;THIS IS WHAT HE MEANT&#039; WHEN ALL HE DID WAS WRITE A SIMPLE STORY WITH NO HIDDEN MEANING IDIOT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STOP SPLITTING **** ING STRAWS. &#8216;I&#8217; OR &#8216;FINE&#8217; IS **** ING IRRELEVANT YOU IMBECILE. YOU&#8217;RE PUTTING YOUR OWN  **** INTO HEMINGWAY AND TRYING TO SAY &#8216;THIS IS WHAT HE MEANT&#8217; WHEN ALL HE DID WAS WRITE A SIMPLE STORY WITH NO HIDDEN MEANING IDIOT.</p>
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		<title>By: momomomo</title>
		<link>http://www.davidgagne.net/2001/11/12/hills-like-white-elephants-2/#comment-373066</link>
		<dc:creator>momomomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 00:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YO U GUYS ARE THE BEST...NOW I UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE STORY</description>
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		<title>By: tereza</title>
		<link>http://www.davidgagne.net/2001/11/12/hills-like-white-elephants-2/#comment-370196</link>
		<dc:creator>tereza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you think the story is going to end?</description>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,
I just want to know the meaning of curtain. Thanks.</description>
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I just want to know the meaning of curtain. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: ivana</title>
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		<dc:creator>ivana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another, possible, connection to the drink choices is that anis, or anise/aniseed, is a phytoestrogen that has been used in some countries for centuries in the treatment of fertility problems. I don&#039;t know if that has any relevant connection, but I wouldn&#039;t put it past Hemingway to use such an obscure association.
I do have a question, too. Is there any significance in the American having another Anis before rejoining Jig?
Oh, and just to clarify, its the anise plant that is used for fertility, not the alcoholic beverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another, possible, connection to the drink choices is that anis, or anise/aniseed, is a phytoestrogen that has been used in some countries for centuries in the treatment of fertility problems. I don&#8217;t know if that has any relevant connection, but I wouldn&#8217;t put it past Hemingway to use such an obscure association.<br />
I do have a question, too. Is there any significance in the American having another Anis before rejoining Jig?<br />
Oh, and just to clarify, its the anise plant that is used for fertility, not the alcoholic beverage.</p>
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		<title>By: Lit. Prof.</title>
		<link>http://www.davidgagne.net/2001/11/12/hills-like-white-elephants-2/#comment-323915</link>
		<dc:creator>Lit. Prof.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isabelle,

Textual evidence suggests that Jig and her boyfriend decided not to get an abortion.  However, one could make the case for the opposite -- that&#039;s the beauty of Hemingway.  In fact, the traditional view is that Jig decides to have one.  Stanley Renner, another critic, proposes the opposite, that she did not get an abortion.  It all depends on how you read the details, and whether or not you attribute sarcasm to some of Jig&#039;s lines.  For instance -- why does Jig smile in the end -- is it because her boyfriend has changed his mind, or is she being sarcastic again?

I tend to believe there is more evidence suggesting the couple decided not to get a an abortion (see my note above in a previous entry for textual evidence).  

Regarding the drinking -- it&#039;s the 1920s, Europe, and the dangers of drinking while pregnant are not yet known.  However, the dangers of absinthe and pregnancy would be known at the time.

Interesting side note: Hemingway dedicated this story to a woman that became his next wife (Pauline Pfeiffer).  She was Catholic.  The text, completed during their honeymoon in 1927, epitomized Hemingway&#039;s talent in crafting rich &quot;bare essentials&quot; stories and was likely meant as a wedding gift.  After the travails Hemingway had experienced in getting Pauline to marry him in the first place, the ending with an abortion at the end would be strange if the story was meant as a gift to Pauline.  Autobiographical details however, should not be used to base your interpretation.  There&#039;s plenty more fascinating details to the biographical Pauline-Hemingway story, but it might take you away from what&#039;s most important -- the writing itself.   Stick to a close reading of the story text and you&#039;ll be fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isabelle,</p>
<p>Textual evidence suggests that Jig and her boyfriend decided not to get an abortion.  However, one could make the case for the opposite &#8212; that&#8217;s the beauty of Hemingway.  In fact, the traditional view is that Jig decides to have one.  Stanley Renner, another critic, proposes the opposite, that she did not get an abortion.  It all depends on how you read the details, and whether or not you attribute sarcasm to some of Jig&#8217;s lines.  For instance &#8212; why does Jig smile in the end &#8212; is it because her boyfriend has changed his mind, or is she being sarcastic again?</p>
<p>I tend to believe there is more evidence suggesting the couple decided not to get a an abortion (see my note above in a previous entry for textual evidence).  </p>
<p>Regarding the drinking &#8212; it&#8217;s the 1920s, Europe, and the dangers of drinking while pregnant are not yet known.  However, the dangers of absinthe and pregnancy would be known at the time.</p>
<p>Interesting side note: Hemingway dedicated this story to a woman that became his next wife (Pauline Pfeiffer).  She was Catholic.  The text, completed during their honeymoon in 1927, epitomized Hemingway&#8217;s talent in crafting rich &#8220;bare essentials&#8221; stories and was likely meant as a wedding gift.  After the travails Hemingway had experienced in getting Pauline to marry him in the first place, the ending with an abortion at the end would be strange if the story was meant as a gift to Pauline.  Autobiographical details however, should not be used to base your interpretation.  There&#8217;s plenty more fascinating details to the biographical Pauline-Hemingway story, but it might take you away from what&#8217;s most important &#8212; the writing itself.   Stick to a close reading of the story text and you&#8217;ll be fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Isabelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isabelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey Lit-Prof   _____ thanks a lot 
I was writting a paper on this story and suddenly I got curious
about the abortion.. So,, Jig will be not getting an abortion, right??
But, why does she drink  Anis del Toro? Isn&#039;t it harmful for the baby? Well, I&#039;m very confused right now
Can someone tell me exactly whether Jig will get an abortion or not?
-Thank you all~
Isabelle from Korea</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Lit-Prof   _____ thanks a lot<br />
I was writting a paper on this story and suddenly I got curious<br />
about the abortion.. So,, Jig will be not getting an abortion, right??<br />
But, why does she drink  Anis del Toro? Isn&#8217;t it harmful for the baby? Well, I&#8217;m very confused right now<br />
Can someone tell me exactly whether Jig will get an abortion or not?<br />
-Thank you all~<br />
Isabelle from Korea</p>
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		<title>By: sophy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sophy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 09:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi..i ne3ed the theme for this story..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi..i ne3ed the theme for this story..</p>
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		<title>By: Kiyoko</title>
		<link>http://www.davidgagne.net/2001/11/12/hills-like-white-elephants-2/#comment-302462</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiyoko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Sophomore in an Advanced English class and my teacher is all for Hemingyway and his syblomism. We were assigned to read a part this and write a paper on it. It was a one night assignment and no one, including myself, had any idea what was going on. I still don&#039;t really get what some of the other things mean, but I appreciate the help here. I still don&#039;t get how someone could come up with all of this, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Sophomore in an Advanced English class and my teacher is all for Hemingyway and his syblomism. We were assigned to read a part this and write a paper on it. It was a one night assignment and no one, including myself, had any idea what was going on. I still don&#8217;t really get what some of the other things mean, but I appreciate the help here. I still don&#8217;t get how someone could come up with all of this, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Holger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 22:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another interesting thing to mention is that Absinthe (distilled from the Vermouth plant) is known to cause miscarriage. It is highly recommended not to be consumed in pregnancy. The Vermouth plant has been used for abortion purposes throughout the 19th century in Europe. Read the line: &quot; Everything tastes of licorice. Especially all the things you&#039;ve waited so long for, like absinthe.&quot; It gets a deeper meaning than it appears on first sight. His reply &quot;Oh, cut it out.&quot; signalizes that she touched a sore spot. He gets upset and she replies: &quot;You started it.&quot; With that sentence she obviously goes back to an earlier topic of their conversation (the abortion) which must have happened before the reader joins them.

Holger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another interesting thing to mention is that Absinthe (distilled from the Vermouth plant) is known to cause miscarriage. It is highly recommended not to be consumed in pregnancy. The Vermouth plant has been used for abortion purposes throughout the 19th century in Europe. Read the line: &#8221; Everything tastes of licorice. Especially all the things you&#8217;ve waited so long for, like absinthe.&#8221; It gets a deeper meaning than it appears on first sight. His reply &#8220;Oh, cut it out.&#8221; signalizes that she touched a sore spot. He gets upset and she replies: &#8220;You started it.&#8221; With that sentence she obviously goes back to an earlier topic of their conversation (the abortion) which must have happened before the reader joins them.</p>
<p>Holger</p>
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		<title>By: Lit Prof</title>
		<link>http://www.davidgagne.net/2001/11/12/hills-like-white-elephants-2/#comment-145188</link>
		<dc:creator>Lit Prof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 07:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a few comments/corrections:

1) Jig is NOT Spanish, as someone corrected earlier.  Several translation moments occur where the American is helping Jig understand.  He may be a little older or more travelled.

2) Right on about the two landscapes -- fertile green side vs. barren desert side, i.e. life vs. abortion

3) The train they initially wait for is going TOWARDS Madrid and AWAY from Barcelona.  The text states they are coming FROM the Barcelona train/side.  The abortion would presumably happen in Madrid, the heart and capital of Spain.  An abortion, as well as absinthe, at the time would have been illegal in the U.S.

4) Jig may not have gotten the abortion because:
      a.  Her lover not only seems to put the luggage on the OTHER side, the fertile side, but he also does not see the train.  This is significant because everyone else can see the Madrid train that is five minutes away -- but Jig&#039;s lover looks up for the train and sees nothing -- meaning he is looking towards the other side, towards the side that awaits the train going back to Barcelona (no-abortion-train).
      b.  Jig smiles after her lover moves their bags.  Although her smile is ambiguous since she also smiles at the barrista, she has just previously been very upset with her boyfriend -- shutting him up in fact (&quot;Please, please please. . . stop talking . . . I&#039;ll scream&quot;).  She thus had no reason to smile now at him unless something in him had changed.  He even asks after he moves the bags, something to the effect of &quot;Are you happy?&quot;
      c.  With Hemingway&#039;s double-play on the word &quot;it&quot; and &quot;everything&quot; as the lovers are speaking, Jig makes it clear that to her, this baby is &quot;the world.&quot;  Her sarcasm creates a double meaning in the following statement about people who have gotten abortions [paraphrased, going by memory, don&#039;t have the text with me], &quot;And afterwards they were all so happy.&quot;  Read sarcastically, as Jig&#039;s tone has been thus far, this statement means exactly the opposite of what it is saying.  Read with an emphasis on &quot;so&quot; as in &quot;so-o-o-o-o&quot; or in a sing-song/sarcastic mode, the statement shows Jig does not believe abortion really makes everyone happy.

5) Although &quot;the world&quot; for the male lover involves travelling and no babies, he has admitted he loves her and doesn&#039;t want Jig to go ahead with the abortion if she feels upset about it.  This can be interpreted as manipulation, if he senses she&#039;ll give in, or it can be interpreted as genuine, especially if you go with the theory that he changes tracks, literally and figuratively, about the abortion.

6) The drinking issue: it&#039;s Spain, there&#039;s warm Meditarraneon weather.  It&#039;s hot.  It&#039;s the 1920&#039;s.  Our ideas of what it means to be &quot;drunk&quot; in our time are a little different from Hemingway&#039;s in portraying characters in a European setting.  (One of Hemingway&#039;s favorite drinks btw,was absinthe, currently legal only in the Florida Keys).  Nevertheless, good points brought up about a certain monotony/tension in the relationship  --  a monotony Jig indirectly links to their drinking patterns.

Bye,
Lit Prof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a few comments/corrections:</p>
<p>1) Jig is NOT Spanish, as someone corrected earlier.  Several translation moments occur where the American is helping Jig understand.  He may be a little older or more travelled.</p>
<p>2) Right on about the two landscapes &#8212; fertile green side vs. barren desert side, i.e. life vs. abortion</p>
<p>3) The train they initially wait for is going TOWARDS Madrid and AWAY from Barcelona.  The text states they are coming FROM the Barcelona train/side.  The abortion would presumably happen in Madrid, the heart and capital of Spain.  An abortion, as well as absinthe, at the time would have been illegal in the U.S.</p>
<p>4) Jig may not have gotten the abortion because:<br />
      a.  Her lover not only seems to put the luggage on the OTHER side, the fertile side, but he also does not see the train.  This is significant because everyone else can see the Madrid train that is five minutes away &#8212; but Jig&#8217;s lover looks up for the train and sees nothing &#8212; meaning he is looking towards the other side, towards the side that awaits the train going back to Barcelona (no-abortion-train).<br />
      b.  Jig smiles after her lover moves their bags.  Although her smile is ambiguous since she also smiles at the barrista, she has just previously been very upset with her boyfriend &#8212; shutting him up in fact (&#8220;Please, please please. . . stop talking . . . I&#8217;ll scream&#8221;).  She thus had no reason to smile now at him unless something in him had changed.  He even asks after he moves the bags, something to the effect of &#8220;Are you happy?&#8221;<br />
      c.  With Hemingway&#8217;s double-play on the word &#8220;it&#8221; and &#8220;everything&#8221; as the lovers are speaking, Jig makes it clear that to her, this baby is &#8220;the world.&#8221;  Her sarcasm creates a double meaning in the following statement about people who have gotten abortions [paraphrased, going by memory, don't have the text with me], &#8220;And afterwards they were all so happy.&#8221;  Read sarcastically, as Jig&#8217;s tone has been thus far, this statement means exactly the opposite of what it is saying.  Read with an emphasis on &#8220;so&#8221; as in &#8220;so-o-o-o-o&#8221; or in a sing-song/sarcastic mode, the statement shows Jig does not believe abortion really makes everyone happy.</p>
<p>5) Although &#8220;the world&#8221; for the male lover involves travelling and no babies, he has admitted he loves her and doesn&#8217;t want Jig to go ahead with the abortion if she feels upset about it.  This can be interpreted as manipulation, if he senses she&#8217;ll give in, or it can be interpreted as genuine, especially if you go with the theory that he changes tracks, literally and figuratively, about the abortion.</p>
<p>6) The drinking issue: it&#8217;s Spain, there&#8217;s warm Meditarraneon weather.  It&#8217;s hot.  It&#8217;s the 1920&#8242;s.  Our ideas of what it means to be &#8220;drunk&#8221; in our time are a little different from Hemingway&#8217;s in portraying characters in a European setting.  (One of Hemingway&#8217;s favorite drinks btw,was absinthe, currently legal only in the Florida Keys).  Nevertheless, good points brought up about a certain monotony/tension in the relationship  &#8212;  a monotony Jig indirectly links to their drinking patterns.</p>
<p>Bye,<br />
Lit Prof.</p>
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		<title>By: maribel</title>
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		<dc:creator>maribel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i mean this.i put the wrong word.sorry!!!!!!!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: maribel</title>
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		<dc:creator>maribel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi to all.yhis is my homework.i dont know what is the meaning or significance of beads curtains in the story.tha&#039;s all.thanks.i&#039;m waiting for the reply..........</description>
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		<title>By: Carla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it would be cool if we started to think about the contrast between the short story and the movie...any clues??</description>
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		<title>By: edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think hemingway wants us to think about every little details in the story. thats why he uses symbols and s**t</description>
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		<title>By: white_rabbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>white_rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know for sure that hemmingway made the ending of this short story be unknown and give us our own way to conclude it. hemmingway made it perfect that every line and dialogues gives us a hard time to have our own perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know for sure that hemmingway made the ending of this short story be unknown and give us our own way to conclude it. hemmingway made it perfect that every line and dialogues gives us a hard time to have our own perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Lae hyun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lae hyun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey- jon! I don&#039;t think that The girl is Spanish. Because, in the text, guy can understand what the bartender said and he translate it to his lover. Ofcourse, bartender(I guess the waitress)is Spanish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey- jon! I don&#8217;t think that The girl is Spanish. Because, in the text, guy can understand what the bartender said and he translate it to his lover. Ofcourse, bartender(I guess the waitress)is Spanish.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all, Just a quick note to let you know about a new film version of Hills Like White Elephants. It&#039;s a great movie by director Steven Brabson and you can learn about it and view clips at his website: http://www.whiteelephants.org. Learn background on the story and even request a copy to view on DVD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all, Just a quick note to let you know about a new film version of Hills Like White Elephants. It&#8217;s a great movie by director Steven Brabson and you can learn about it and view clips at his website: <a href="http://www.whiteelephants.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.whiteelephants.org</a>. Learn background on the story and even request a copy to view on DVD.</p>
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		<title>By: kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I&#039;m a h.s. student and we are studying this short story in class and I am completely oblivious to how you can possibly come up with all these metaphors and such. I need help, and bad. If someone could help by maybe explaining it a little I would be very thankful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I&#8217;m a h.s. student and we are studying this short story in class and I am completely oblivious to how you can possibly come up with all these metaphors and such. I need help, and bad. If someone could help by maybe explaining it a little I would be very thankful.</p>
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		<title>By: marius</title>
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		<dc:creator>marius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no s**t!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no s**t!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: hymie</title>
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		<dc:creator>hymie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the power and beauty of this story comes from two aspects: Hemingway&#039;s &quot;pronoun play&quot; and his use of &quot;reasonable&quot; at the story&#039;s end. First, the girl&#039;s seemingly sarcastic statements about having &quot;everything&quot; leads the American to retort that they could &quot;have the whole world.&quot; She says it is not theirs, and &quot;once they take IT away, you never get it back.&quot; The double meaning of &quot;it&quot; (also referring to the baby), used here and near the story&#039;s end, is usually missed in the initial read. But the fact that all the people in the bar are &quot;reasonable&quot; at the story&#039;s end indicates that the American and/or the girl are not. They are separated from the others. What will be their decision? I can ernestly argue either way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the power and beauty of this story comes from two aspects: Hemingway&#8217;s &#8220;pronoun play&#8221; and his use of &#8220;reasonable&#8221; at the story&#8217;s end. First, the girl&#8217;s seemingly sarcastic statements about having &#8220;everything&#8221; leads the American to retort that they could &#8220;have the whole world.&#8221; She says it is not theirs, and &#8220;once they take IT away, you never get it back.&#8221; The double meaning of &#8220;it&#8221; (also referring to the baby), used here and near the story&#8217;s end, is usually missed in the initial read. But the fact that all the people in the bar are &#8220;reasonable&#8221; at the story&#8217;s end indicates that the American and/or the girl are not. They are separated from the others. What will be their decision? I can ernestly argue either way.</p>
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		<title>By: sandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree the girl is not spanish. the number two is a huge symbolysm for the two decisions. Anis del toro is the seed/flower from the bull, pretty much the seed that the bull planted turns into a flower = baby the girl and the American will keep the baby, thats why he brings the bags to the other side of the train , he returns, this time and for the first time goes into the bar: he chooses another anis del toro, not absynthe, therefore he is pro baby</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree the girl is not spanish. the number two is a huge symbolysm for the two decisions. Anis del toro is the seed/flower from the bull, pretty much the seed that the bull planted turns into a flower = baby the girl and the American will keep the baby, thats why he brings the bags to the other side of the train , he returns, this time and for the first time goes into the bar: he chooses another anis del toro, not absynthe, therefore he is pro baby</p>
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		<title>By: Genia V. Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Genia V. Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello: I&#039;m providing an updated email address if anyone needs to reach me for comments. Wow. I can&#039;t believe this essay is STILL floating around after all this time. You can start contacting me at genia@alumn.beloit.edu . That address should be working within a few days.

Genia V. Stevens Beloit College &#039;00</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello: I&#8217;m providing an updated email address if anyone needs to reach me for comments. Wow. I can&#8217;t believe this essay is STILL floating around after all this time. You can start contacting me at <a href="mailto:genia@alumn.beloit.edu">genia@alumn.beloit.edu</a> . That address should be working within a few days.</p>
<p>Genia V. Stevens Beloit College &#8217;00</p>
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