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	<title>Comments on: Jonathan Edwards and Benjamin Franklin</title>
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		<title>By: Millie S.</title>
		<link>http://www.davidgagne.net/2002/05/24/jonathan-edwards-and-benjamin-franklin/#comment-368879</link>
		<dc:creator>Millie S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the requested quote (from Beliefnet)

Philadelphia, February 22, 1756.
Dear Child,

I condole with you, we have lost a most dear and valuable relation, but it is the will of God and Nature that these mortal bodies be laid aside, when the soul is to enter into real life; &#039;tis rather an embrio state, a preparation for living; a man in not completely born until he be dead: Why then should we grieve that a new child is born among the immortals? A new member added to their happy society? We are spirits. 

Why then should we grieve that a new child is born among the immortals? A new member added to their happy society? We are spirits. That bodies should be lent us, while they can afford us pleasure, assist us in acquiring knowledge, or doing good to our fellow creatures, is a kind and benevolent act of God.
That bodies should be lent us, while they can afford us pleasure, assist us in acquiring knowledge, or doing good to our fellow creatures, is a kind and benevolent act of God - when they become unfit for these purposes and afford us pain instead of pleasure-instead of an aid, become an incumbrance and answer none of the intentions for which they were given, it is equally kind and benevolent that a way is provided by which we may get rid of them. Death is that way. We ourselves prudently choose a partial death. In some cases a mangled painful limb, which cannot be restored, we willingly cut off. He who plucks out a tooth, parts with it freely since the pain goes with it, and he that quits the whole body, parts at once with all pains and possibilities of pains and diseases it was liable to, or capable of making him suffer.
Our friend and we are invited abroad on a party of pleasure- that is to last for ever. His chair was first ready and he is gone before us. We could not all conveniently start together, and why should you and I be grieved at this, since we are soon to follow, and we know where to find him. Adieu.

B. F.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the requested quote (from Beliefnet)</p>
<p>Philadelphia, February 22, 1756.<br />
Dear Child,</p>
<p>I condole with you, we have lost a most dear and valuable relation, but it is the will of God and Nature that these mortal bodies be laid aside, when the soul is to enter into real life; &#8217;tis rather an embrio state, a preparation for living; a man in not completely born until he be dead: Why then should we grieve that a new child is born among the immortals? A new member added to their happy society? We are spirits. </p>
<p>Why then should we grieve that a new child is born among the immortals? A new member added to their happy society? We are spirits. That bodies should be lent us, while they can afford us pleasure, assist us in acquiring knowledge, or doing good to our fellow creatures, is a kind and benevolent act of God.<br />
That bodies should be lent us, while they can afford us pleasure, assist us in acquiring knowledge, or doing good to our fellow creatures, is a kind and benevolent act of God &#8211; when they become unfit for these purposes and afford us pain instead of pleasure-instead of an aid, become an incumbrance and answer none of the intentions for which they were given, it is equally kind and benevolent that a way is provided by which we may get rid of them. Death is that way. We ourselves prudently choose a partial death. In some cases a mangled painful limb, which cannot be restored, we willingly cut off. He who plucks out a tooth, parts with it freely since the pain goes with it, and he that quits the whole body, parts at once with all pains and possibilities of pains and diseases it was liable to, or capable of making him suffer.<br />
Our friend and we are invited abroad on a party of pleasure- that is to last for ever. His chair was first ready and he is gone before us. We could not all conveniently start together, and why should you and I be grieved at this, since we are soon to follow, and we know where to find him. Adieu.</p>
<p>B. F.</p>
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		<title>By: Paavo Lipponen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paavo Lipponen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, i HAVE tried. following M. Sevilles advice above i have tried to track down this quote as i too would like to refresh my memory. but of all the various threads leading away from the quoted source, none of them lead to it. there are/were many books(?) with that title.  none of them had the sought after quote on pages 415-416. can anyone else help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, i HAVE tried. following M. Sevilles advice above i have tried to track down this quote as i too would like to refresh my memory. but of all the various threads leading away from the quoted source, none of them lead to it. there are/were many books(?) with that title.  none of them had the sought after quote on pages 415-416. can anyone else help?</p>
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		<title>By: Jaime Seville</title>
		<link>http://www.davidgagne.net/2002/05/24/jonathan-edwards-and-benjamin-franklin/#comment-321826</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaime Seville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 06:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Nancy Dixon&#039;s request -- Look at the Memoirs of Life and Writings of Benjamin Franklin (available on Google books) at pages 415-416.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Nancy Dixon&#8217;s request &#8212; Look at the Memoirs of Life and Writings of Benjamin Franklin (available on Google books) at pages 415-416.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Dixon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Dixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benjamin Franklin wrote to his niece on the occasion of his brother&#039;s ( and her father&#039;s) death.  It is a wonderful and comforting thought  about the fact that bodies are lent  us while they give us pleasure in living and that an equally kind way is provided to be rid of our bodies when they no longer bring us pleasure.  I would love to find this wonderful quote.  Can you help me?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benjamin Franklin wrote to his niece on the occasion of his brother&#8217;s ( and her father&#8217;s) death.  It is a wonderful and comforting thought  about the fact that bodies are lent  us while they give us pleasure in living and that an equally kind way is provided to be rid of our bodies when they no longer bring us pleasure.  I would love to find this wonderful quote.  Can you help me?</p>
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