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Five Tips for Smarter Playlists

Tuesday November 14, 2006

1The Hidden Secret: Groupings!

Most people don’t have any idea what the Grouping option is in iTunes. I actually can’t say that I know what Apple was thinking either, to tell you the truth. But I can tell you how I use it. Grouping is a text field; you can type whatever you want in that box. I use it to “tag” my music. If you start tagging your songs you can create even more specific smart playlists based on your tags. Here’s an example: “Suicide Blonde” by INXS is in the “Rock” genre. It’s not “Dance” and it’s not “90s” and it’s not “Alternative”. It’s good old Rock. You shouldn’t incorrectly change the genre just to categorize something. So what can I do? I can tag it with an identifier that I like. This one gets the tag “701″. (701 South was a club in Daytona Beach where I went to high school.) Then I can create a smart playlist to give me any songs where Grouping contains 701 and I can pretend I’m 17 and drinkin’ on a fake ID again.

If you start tagging your songs you can create even more specific smart playlists based on your tags.

What’s cool about the Grouping option is that you can include multiple items in that box. So “Suicide Blonde” gets tagged like this: .701.daytona.highschool.party. Now I can create smart playlists based on any one of those tags!
Note that I wrap each tag with a period, including the first and last tags. That way I can have multi-word tags and also it lets my smart playlists tell the difference between a song tagged with “LA” and one tagged with “lame”.

Wrap It Up

So there you go. Smart playlists are a powerful way to organize your music and keep you listening to what you want. I hope these tips help you, because you can’t just live your life on shuffle all the time.

03/04/09 Update: I now have 10,738 songs (about 43 GB) in iTunes.

12/14/09 Update: I now have 11,296 songs (about 46 GB) in iTunes.

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{ 33 comments… read them below or add one }

1 Haggis Wednesday November 15, 2006 at 3:20 pm

Good stuff, man! I’ve been fighting with my playlists for months now trying to find one that works. I’m probably as meticulous (if not more than) as you when tagging my tracks.. proper genre, album art, all that jazz. Hopefully all that OCD perfectionist crap will pay off!

2 adrian Wednesday November 15, 2006 at 3:45 pm

for building smart playlists one site rules them all
http://www.seekpod.com

3 Jinx Wednesday November 15, 2006 at 4:02 pm

I love smart playlists. Even more, I love recursing smart playlists. I’ve created one “root” playlist that removes podcasts, videos and anything else you don’t like, and reference it in all further smart playlists. Makes playlist generation even easier!

4 The Spuzz Wednesday November 15, 2006 at 4:21 pm

For those mac users out there trying to cut out the slow songs or do any sorting by tempo try tangerine: http://www.potionfactory.com/tangerine/

It will analyzes your music and organize it by BPM. Still being developed and only for Mac OS X, but a nice tool.

5 Linh Wednesday November 15, 2006 at 4:45 pm

I just have one question… what files do we backup for all the rating info? I would hate to spend all this time.. and then have a system crash. I don’t believe the metadata is attached to the file, so how would one know what song is rated as what (unless I”m mistaken here)?

6 Robin Wednesday November 15, 2006 at 4:47 pm

I’m new to Itunes … your article, in the very least, has given me an order of magnitude increase in the pleasure I get from my music. Thanks!

7 Ben Wednesday November 15, 2006 at 4:53 pm

I use grouping the same way you do except use brackets to seperate tags, only the tags I use are the different genres that the music fits into. I pull these genres from allmusic.com under a paricular artist’s styles. For example, Led Zepplin has these styles listed:

* Blues-Rock
* Hard Rock
* Heavy Metal
* Arena Rock
* British Metal
* British Blues
* Album Rock

So their grouping entry is [Blues-Rock] [Hard Rock] [Arena Rock] etc.

The reason I did this was because with the Genre label you can only label an artist with ONE genre. I find this so limiting in classifying artists and bands. But I do instead works fine and is great for smart playlists BUT i can’t use the Browse Genre feature the way it was intended.

I really don’t like this. I really wish iTunes allowed the user to label tracks as more than one genre so that I could Browse by Genre. What’s frustrating is that this just makes sense and is simple, yet iTunes doesn’t let you do it. If you have any work arounds or any input please share.

All in all though, i think your comments are spot on. I have heavily catagorized my music as well. I’m currently working on entering hometowns for bands and artists in the Composer Field, it’s pretty cool to browse iTunes by geography.

8 Mobile 360 Wednesday November 15, 2006 at 5:04 pm

Need to now create a smart playlist, but Apple ITunes is the simplist music player, very easy to use.

9 Don Wednesday November 15, 2006 at 5:19 pm

Here’s a trick I just discovered.

I don’t like the way iPod/iTunes handles podcasts, the ipod stops after each podcast and you have to fumble with it to start the next one. Not good if you’re driving.
I made a smart playlist called “Long” and set it to be just longer than my longest music track (about 14 minutes). Now it lists all of my podcasts, which are usually longer than 20 minutes, and will play them in sequence. If I’ve already listened to it, I just click the skip button.

10 Kman Wednesday November 15, 2006 at 5:48 pm

Just tryed out the groupings tag with a couple of tracks. I love it! Great article.

11 Duane Wednesday November 15, 2006 at 6:40 pm

Don’t forget that you can nest smart playlists as well for when you want to combine both “and” and “or” functionality. I have a ‘New podcasts for listening at work’ playlist which is “Title is X OR Y OR Z…” and “Playcount is 0″. So I create one playlist “ok for work” that contains the first clause, then a second playlist where playcount is 0 And playlist is “ok for work”. Done!

12 chzplz Wednesday November 15, 2006 at 8:11 pm

“limit it to the 25 items that I’ve heard least recently.”

Freakin’ brilliant. I’ve got 7000+ songs in itunes, and there are a crapload that I’ve never listened to. I already have an “everyday shuffle” smart playlist that excludes a bunch of stuff based on genre (no xmas in July, thx) and star rating (no known crap, pls) – now I have a new smart playlist that only includes songs in my “everyday shuffle” playlist, BUT with a play count of zero. 1600 songs that I somewhat like, that I have never heard through itunes.

So… how do you do the x items heard last recently?

13 K Wednesday November 15, 2006 at 8:24 pm

Don,

For those short podcasts, or when you get that whole concert in one track mp3, try this. Smart playlist: podcast==is true playcount==0

So now you’ll get all your podcasts, except those you’ve already listened to all the way through. I also add a size is less than 100Mb to eliminate the video podcasts.

14 donK Wednesday November 15, 2006 at 11:14 pm

To avoid being tied to iTunes I have started adding ratings and groupings into the comments field. This means I can switch between iTunes and Winamp or any other software that allows smart playlists. Of course you need to convert rating into comment but that can be done with some smart playlists and if you do spend time on cleaning up your tags, its a small overhead to pay for portability.

15 Shanti Braford Thursday November 16, 2006 at 12:51 am

Awesome tutorial, David!

And congrats on the dugg/del.icio.us-popular, it’s well deserved.

16 Kevin Thursday November 16, 2006 at 4:34 am

So tell me how you incorporate FOLDERs into your organizational efforts?

I have been creating FOLDERs that contain multiple playlists of recent CDs bought/borrowed and converted/ripped. Within one of my folders is a playlist of the whole CD in original play order. This way when I play the FOLDER I am getting the whole CD played in the correct order, then the next CD, and the next.

Is there a way to do this better via smart playlists?

17 Dale Cruse Thursday November 16, 2006 at 4:47 am

I’m a bass player and always want to know who lays down the low end on each track. I’ve made good use of the Comment field to include the bassist’s name(s). This way I can actually sort playlists (or my entire Library) by bass player. It’s taken some time to research my more than 7,000 tracks but it works for me.

18 Kevin Thursday November 16, 2006 at 5:04 am

New Comment #1 On RATING SONGS you have a great method to do this!! But I would add to the discussion. How do you incorporate external information (reviewed music, like ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE – BEST OF 2006) into your rating scheme (algorythm)?

It just seems that you might be reading some reviews, then you go back to your song lists and start MODDING up or down what your ratings are? Sounds slow to do that.

New Comment # 2 How do you back up all this ratings work from a 35GB collection of music? It took me about 12 DVDs to backup my collection (standard MP3s) and my playlists (exported to M3U playlist format). But what is the most effecient way to backup all this work you have done on ratings??

19 cogitobsw Thursday November 16, 2006 at 5:12 am

Instead of groupings, I use the comments field, but I’m sure it works the same . . . just a little easier to see all of the information int the “Get Info” screen.

As far as the question regarding what file to back up so you don’t lose your ratings, I incorporate all of my ratings into the comment field with “four” or “five”, you get the idea. That way the comment attaches directly to the MP3 file itself. This is useful for a couple of reasons. 1. Backup. I use a 250 external hd to backup all of my music. Should the unthinkable happen, I don’t need to worry about another file . . . it’s all right there in the song information. Add folder to library, and I’m right back where I was 2. Network. I have a wireless network at home, all the mp3s are on my Desktop, but I run itunes on my laptop with the itunes library defined as over my network as the desktop harddrive. Change a comment upstairs, it’s changed downstairs and vice versa . . . can rate in two different places, however last played, play count, etc, are still separate b/c those are specific to each computer’s iTunes.

I almost completely ignore the genre field b/c it’s often so difficult to classify a song as one thing. Comments I keep include: jazz, classical, work, funk, reggae, christmas, irish (for st. paddy’s day), baby (light songs for when the baby’s napping); childrens (for when she’s a bit older), electronica, world, hard, four, five, alternative, country, bluegrass, punk, pop, etc . . . you get the idea.

Make sure to keep your comments for each individual song in alphabetical order . . . since you can’t just add a comment (if you’re adding a new comment to a bunch of songs, I usually put them all in a playlist, then sort by comment and modify large groups with the same comments at the same time. It can get a bit cumbersome to add the comment “four” to songs with “hard, rock” and then two minutes later add to songs with “rock, hard”. For uniformity’s sake, I keep them in alphabetical in the field.

I make a playlist where comment contains four, but not five (I always include four in five star songs, so that I can have the equivalent of a four and greater playlist, or a four only) and then rate the songs as 4 stars . . . I use this as my reference then when I’m on the ipod. Same with five star songs.

I use one star to note songs that need to be deleted or repaired (might have extracted improperly). Three stars for songs I don’t want to come up on playlists, but don’t want deleted (banter during a live show, silly little interludes that don’t sound good individually, but are essential to an album).

Two stars I reserve for the current pet project. When my wife was pregnant, it was “songs for the baby” Since my comments had the four or five rating, I knew how the song was rated, and could quickly return it there, after I added the baby comment.

Also, you don’t have to worry about a song leaving a current playlist b/c of changing your rating since your smart playlist is contingent on the comments.

Finally, I always comment my music BEFORE I listen to it . . . as soon as it’s added, actually. If it’s jazz, or classical, I add that comment, and usually “work” too. If it’s something more typically radio friendly, I always add the four star comment, and then adjust accordingly as the songs come up on my four star list (my equivalent of radio play . . . what I listen to 80% of the time I’m not at work) If it’s better than four, it gets bumped up to five, if it’s not, I either keep it at four, or drop it to three or one. Otherwise some music can get lost and never return to the playlist (i have around 160 GB of music, so organization is key).

20 Kevin Sunday November 19, 2006 at 3:16 am

Just found out about the site called LASTFM. It has very comprehensive and inclusive pages on music artists. http://www.lastfm.com should get you there. Each artist page has an exetensive and broad (lots of people) user rated listing of their most popular songs.

21 Rob Monday November 20, 2006 at 4:47 pm

There is a FREE gagdet that goes that uses the information on last.fm to create iTunes playlists for you (like smart playlists, but smarter) but does it based on the artist you are currently listening to. It ends up being a lot like pandora.com, but just for your library.

All that has to be tagged is the title and artist, but the picking algorithm looks at other tracks, if they are there…

http://www12.asphost4free.com/theflamingavocado/

22 qxvrea Friday November 24, 2006 at 3:51 pm

You can easily use a “Unrated list”

Make a smart playlist with – Rating: 0 *

Go to your “Partymix” -> select the Unrated smartlist, then you can rate the songs without stops.

I’m from Norway, and my english REALLY sucks. Sorry :P

23 Kasper Wednesday November 29, 2006 at 12:30 am

Ok I have a question for all you iTunes people.

My girlfriend and I spent a number of years living in our campervan and of course the iPod came in very handy.
As all we had was my dad’s old laptop (It had Windows NT on it when he gave it to us…) with a 9GB harddrive and pentium II, and for some reason you couldn’t open iTunes with a disk in the CD drive, so we ripped cd’s using Media Player and then imported them to iTunes.

Now, to the question…..

All these “Track 1, Unknown artist, Unknown album” that we have – can iTunes find the info for them on the net ?
I haven’t spent THAT much time trying to figure it out, as we typed in the name of the album and artist in Media player and that obviously carried through to iTunes, but it would be nice if it was possible at the click of a button to get that info.

Also, I figured out how to load ALL the music from the iPod to the new PC without downloading any dodgy free software or anything.

Easy – just plug in the iPod – open it through “My computer” as an external device and go in to Data, then Music (I think) and copy and paste everything to a folder or desktop.
Then Add to Library.
Voila.
Took about 20 minutes all up to transfer 3000 MP3′s.

I searched high and low for a way of doing this on the net, and even the selfproclaimed “iPod experts” on websites such as iLounge didn’t seem to know of it.
I was very pleased with myself when I figured it out!

…MP3′s might be convenient, but vinyl is still the purest form of music media… :)

24 joybird Thursday December 14, 2006 at 1:19 am

is there a way to do grouping faster? i’m having to right-click and go to “Get Info” in order to enter groupings. it seems like this is the case regardless of which field they’re entered into.

i’ve dug the unrated playlist tip, and that’s easy enuf to do while i’m working on something else. is there a handier way to deal w/groupings?

25 dvg Thursday December 14, 2006 at 7:43 am

Do you mean you want to be able to update the “grouping” of a single song “on the fly” while you are listening to iTunes?

If you have iTunes open, yes.

Right-click on a column title in the track-listing window and add a check to the “Grouping” item. That will add the “Grouping” column to your track-listing window.

Now you can single-click *slowly* two times (basically a double-click with an extended pause between clicks) on the left edge of the column on the row with the song you want to update (shoot for between 2 and 10 pixels from the left) and edit the grouping “in place”.

26 Tim Forden Monday December 18, 2006 at 1:34 pm

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27 Shinji Sunday January 14, 2007 at 3:20 am

Great Article. For the slow songs, I would also write it under the comment fields instead of doing a static playlist, then use the smart playlist to exclude [slow] keyword.

In my smart playlists, I also exclude for few days or weeks (depending on my rating) songs that I skipped: I think if you skip it, it doesn’t change the [last played] field… not sure of that, though.

Tip for Kevin, Comment #24:
Under Windows, most info (song list, rating, etc) are under
%userprofile%\my documents\my music\iTunes

I personally backup this folder as well as [Application Data\Apple Computer] and [Local Settings\Application Data\Apple Computer] and put it on my external 80Gb 2.5″ HD where my music collection is. I can install iTunes on any computer and transfer these files, then access/update to my collection anywhere.

Note: Beware of iTunes changing the ID tags directly on your mp3 files (at least for standards tags).

Hope this can help.

Shinji.

28 Tanya Reynolds Thursday February 15, 2007 at 9:36 am

Thanks, David, for the excellent recommendations. Your tips will help me develop more playlists that I can share with friends using the Avvenu Music Player. If you haven’t tried the player yet, I’d love to get your feedback on it.
–Tanya from Avvenu, Inc.

29 Rick Buckles Tuesday February 20, 2007 at 10:38 am

Does anyone have an idea on how I can download one of my own audiobooks and put it into the audiobooks section. When I try to do this it puts it in my music list. If I download a book from iTunes store I can put it into audiobooks section. Thanks, any help is appreciated.

30 General Slocum Friday June 15, 2007 at 8:45 am

Does anyone know how to link songs within a playlist so they don’t shuffle? I have a list with some jazz and laid back stuff for listening during dinner or whatever, but it has a piano sonata on it which is three tracks. If I shuffle, the sonata gets broken up. Can a shuffle a list and treat some separate tracks as a unit? As one song? Thanks…

31 Rebecca Saturday September 15, 2007 at 2:24 pm

Hello! Now, I am also a freak with organizing my music. I am all about being creative. smart playlists just don’t do it for me. I have a few but I feel like a machine cant organize my music as personally and perfectly as I would like. I personally like to organize my music by moods. You would think this wouldn’t be too hard, but it is. have 5 playlists entitled softest, quiet, medium, loud, loudest. I place each song into one of these categories. The result is brilliant. Then I do styles. For instance Fun, Dance, Oldies, Instrumental, beautiful, ect. This really does consume your time, however once its done it is worth it. Also I like creative playlist titles. For instance I will go into my moods section and my titles will be as follows. :) ,

32 Lauren Saturday September 4, 2010 at 8:58 pm

You are a lifesaver! Thank so much for sharing this valuable information! ♥

33 Will Sisto Thursday January 27, 2011 at 11:12 am

thanks for the information!!!!!!!

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